Dear Professor Smith

Some time back I was attacked on another website.  As many of you know, I’m quite used to that, but this time it felt different.  After pondering the “criticism,” and doing a little research, I’m ready to respond.  For privacy concerns, I’m using the name “Prof. Debra Smith” to protect her identity, and have scrupulously avoided any personally identifiable details.

I will be moderating comments on this post as usual.

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Dear Professor Smith,

I want you to know that I did take note of your criticisms and characterizations in your posts.  My initial feelings were mixed.  I sat in a kind of stunned silence–stunned by your  seemingly clever ridicule, your easily refuted mischaracterization of my blog’s content, your baseless personal characterizations, etc.  Several times I have sat, silently wondering how an intelligent academic could compose what I was reading.  I did some basic research and found out how.

It would be an understatement to say that you have had a hard life.  You’ve worked diligently to elevate yourself above your humble origins.  I know a little bit about that myself, having grown up in public housing, an isolated white kid in the East Oakland ghetto.  But that’s probably a bit more exotic than growing up in an isolated, semi-arid region like you did. Like me, the recognition I received in elementary school set me on an academic trajectory.  Similar to me, you developed an appetite for more academic success, which a handful of caring mentors nurtured at key moments.  Your perseverence eventually paid off in the form of a Ph.D. and secure academic tenure, for which I congratulate you.

Unfortunately, domestic life has not been as kind.  When I read about the abuse you suffered in your first marriage, I was appalled.  It made me much more inclined to cut you some slack regarding your attacks on me.  Early on, after only re-reading your criticisms a few times, I suspected that I might be standing in for something other than myself as an individual.  This was confirmed by your comments about marriage in a patriarchal society.

Likewise, the fact of your debilitating health condition, and the initial misdiagnosis that brought it about, made me realize that you live with chronic pain.  After my one-month bout with shingles, I know how debilitating chronic pain can be.  And all of your incompetent doctors were males.  The occasional difficulty in finding acceptable restaurants reinforced again how complicated and painful your life is on a daily basis.

Initially I was stunned at the language you used with a woman who was apparently coming on to your current husband.  I wondered what your students and colleagues would think if the knew the kind of junior high ranting you did. “Fat, stupid whore,” “b*tch,” “moron,” and the rest left me shaking my head, as did your several threats.  I wondered where you’d heard those words before.  It was painful.

The emotional and rhetorical outpouring became much more understandable to me when I realized that this woman’s apparent interest in your husband became known to you only a couple of weeks after your marriage. That sucks big time, especially considering how many times your high school sweetheart has been married. Anyone would be alert to potential threats in your situation.  And after your previous marriages, I can see how much you really need this one to succeed.

I’m impressed by the height, depth, and breadth of your rhetorical expression.  Your academic work is, from all appearances, great, and your combat rhetoric compares favorably to Glenn Beck, who moves from ridicule to ad hominem to “reasoned” critique so seamlessly.  Also, you carefully adjust your tone depending on your persona relative to your audience.  Your interactions with people involved with the terminally ill and with individuals struggling with marital challenges demonstrate compassion and insight.  This is congruent with your deep, genuine concern for the well-being of your students, who are in return sympathetic to you and what they daily see of your depression.

On the other hand, when you’re dealing with an academic audience you are sharp and to the point.  You don’t mince words.  And of course with “false teachers” like myself, it’s more important for your actual “tribal audience” for you to be rhetorically effective than to deal with the niceties of accuracy, careful exegesis, or something more than a superficial glance.  It’s important not to confuse people–what with their five-second attention spans and all.  You delight in the sound of a biting, devastating remark. Ridicule and satire are, after all, effective weapons, as demonstrated by Limbaugh, Savage, and Beck, and more subtly by Woody Allen, Richard O’Brien, and Terry Gilliam.

Professor Smith, you take great pride in your accomplishments, and vigorously defend yourself against anyone who threatens what you have achieved, whether it’s “the other woman,” or someone who cheapens the academic system through fraud or lack of adequate credentials.  I suspect you developed your balls for assertiveness in the ordeal of ending your first marriage.  My impression is that few things energize you quite like a good fight, a trait with which I certainly identify.

Debra, one of the concepts most significant for you seems to be “chaos.”  Chaos is a theme in much of your writing, and apparently in your life.  Whether we’re looking at your scholarly writing, at your defense of academic integrity, or at the pathetic, fat, ugly, desperate POS “whore” stalking your husband, your world is filled with chaos.  Your academic interest in the capacity of women for self-organization in face of chaos in their personal relationships suggests to me that fending off the chaos in your life is a real and ongoing struggle.

I know that I seem chaotic and contradictory to people.  Some people are actually a little afraid of me because I’m “unpredictable.”  That unpredictability has numerous causes. Part of it stems from deliberately cultivating of a degree of eccentricity, which started as far back as high school. Part of it stems from sheer intellectual curiosity and a pleasure in being stretched to the point of discomfort.  Like you, I suspect, I relish holding contradictory ideas and interests together within myself.  The tension of intense contradictions generates its own energy.

And of course I’ve been diagnosed with diabetes and bipolar disorder, both of which manifest themselves emotionally and behaviorally.  Bipolar disorder defnitely makes for a checkered employment history and sometimes troubled organizational relationships.  People have a long memory.

Debra, there is a difference between you and me.  I have always had loving people in my life, especially my wife.  I haven’t always appreciated her, and we are temperamentally quite different.  We married young, we’ve had our rough patches, but she really, really loves me.  Her love is (almost) unconditional, and I am (basically) a nice guy.  We’re not what you’d call soul mates, but I owe her everything.  I don’t know where I’d be without her–probably sleeping on a piece of cardboard behind a dumpster.

You, in contrast, have had to tough it out with men who didn’t seem to have a clue about what marital love and commitment are about. They were with you as long as it was convenient, sucked you dry, and tossed you away.  I can only begin to imagine how difficult that has been.

I need to get to the criticisms, “attacks,” if you will, that prompted this letter.  I hope you’ll forgive me if I don’t engage with all your provocative comments.  Each one seemed designed to invite a response, and I don’t need to defend myself, my scholarship, or my family against you.

You believe that American society is marked by confusion, anger, and chaos.  You believe that laissez faire tolerance, especially in sexual matters, threatens to dissolve traditional institutions, bulwarks of our society and culture, like the family and the academy.  Regarding the family, you believe that prostitution and homosexuality will hasten the dissolution of the nuclear family.

I’d unquestionably say that prostitution threatens marriage relationships.  Any form of marital unfaithfulness is damaging and hurtful.  But since it is generally men who hire the services of sex workers, we’re actually talking more about men’s sexual attitudes and habits than about women who, sometimes willingly and sometimes against their wills, provide those services.  Various sayings are applied to situations similar to this, like “Bad money drives out good,” and one that talks about getting the milk for free, but libertarians have a pragmatic, if amoral, handle on this issue.

I disagree, however, that “homosexuality” threatens the nuclear family.  It is simply wrong to issue a blanket condemnation of gays and lesbians because of gay men who have made the unfortunate decision to marry straight women.  All of us make unfortunate decisions, decisions that cause pain and grief.  What some people blame on God or their bad choices, I generally blame on hard-wired processes in the brain, on culture, and on our instincts for territory, status, our nests, our tribes, survival, etc.

Many people share your belief that homosexuality threatens the fabric of the family.  What is seldom articulated is what this notion is based on.  Aside from the notorious “gay agenda” you mentioned, I believe the real reason is something else you mentioned, the fact that when a straight woman unknowingly marries a gay man, unhappiness is inevitable.  A woman can live for years, wondering why her husband doesn’t seem to really love her, why he doesn’t feel the passion or seem to enjoy making love.  She blames herself, wondering, “What’s the matter with me?”

The gay husband is not necessarily culpable or guilty of deceit.  These gay men are generally older, and married straight women for two reasons.  First, they genuinely hoped that by marrying a woman they would “become straight.”  This is often the advice they get from pastors and others.  “Find yourself a nice girl, get married, and this will all sort itself out.”  Nope.  It doesn’t work that way.  Second, and related, are gay men who are either in denial about their sexual orientation or who, because of social stigma, ostracism, and physical danger, marry as a cover.  This is becoming less frequent, but in certain regions of the country and in some denominations undoubtedly remains a tragic recipe for continued unhappiness, divorces, and common bitterness.

I understand how marital infidelity might fuel your concern for the nuclear family, but I don’t see how acceptance of gays and lesbians threatens marriages in general, unless a woman happens to have unknowingly married a gay man, or a man unknowingly married a lesbian, which happens as well.

I would think that your own experience of pain and rejection, of struggling with the non-rational drives and passions of both yourself and your spouses, would give you more compassion and sympathy for gays and lesbians with similar passions.  I don’t doubt that you have insight and understanding regarding the anguish, torture, and suicidal ideations of such young people.  Unfortunately you choose to lend your weight to religious communities whose more outrageous spokespeople would round ’em all up and execute ’em.  But there are political and social factors that encourage our tribal solidarities.

It really does seem that, on the treatment of gays and lesbians, you are more interested in how things impinge on your system of beliefs and on your status, both marital and professional, than on thousands of gay and lesbian believers who are generally unknown to you.  I hope that you will one day find your confidence, security, and worth in the love and approval of God.  You are not a moron, a loser, or a worthless POS, no matter what your accusing voices say.

Please don’t use your position as an academic and your authoritative-sounding verbiage to denigrate others, while in other settings express your spirituality, compassion and kindness.  This is unworthy of you, unless you’re talking back to your television set.

And considering your passion to be happily married, please support the desire of many gays and lesbians to be married, whose desire to have stable, committed, monogamous relationships is comparable to your own.  There are more of them than you let on.  I’ve met them, and since I live in California many of the couples are married.  I’ve met many couples, gays and lesbians both, who have been together for 25 or 30 years.  As they say, “that’s quite an accomplishment in this day and age.”  For you, this is a simple application of the Golden Rule.

You know gay couples who have been together for a long time, yet you feel (it seems) morally superior to them. I have to agree with my wife when she said that you are in no position to say anything by way of criticism or evaluation regarding homosexuals, same-sex marriage, etc.  Considering your many marriages, your derisive remarks about gay “families” destroying American society and culture are completely inappropriate and unworthy of serious consideration.

You write about homosexuals, about their so-called lifestyle choices, about their emphasis on sex and not love, about these deeply personal things–you write about them so casually, so dismissively, so authoritatively. I know you care about the individual students you’ve met, yet you side with the oppressors, those who routinely shed innocent blood.

For many years, gay and lesbian teenagers and young adults have suffered in silence, frequently succumbing to suicidal depression.  Words really do count.  I remember reading about mysterious teen suicides when I was young.  Each story was so similar to the others.

He was successful in academics and sports.  The reason for his suicide is a mystery to everyone who knew him.”

“He seemed like a nice, well-adjusted kid.  We didn’t have any idea that there was something wrong.”

Looking back, I am convinced that most of these suicides resulted from the excruciating stress of living in the closet, living a lie month after month, having no one safe in whom to confide.

Debra, you actually argue that homosexuality is worse than other sins, that it is repeatedly called an abomination, not a mere sin, and that it interferes with human reproduction, which means that it actually threatens the survival of humanity.  You go on at some length about the violence of male homosexuals. I can only wonder if one of your husbands was gay, or if you are generalizing from your unfortunate experience with your violent first husband.  You have fond memories of your experience in the theater, so it doesn’t seem that your intense feelings about sexual perversion could stem from that.

Without knowing more, it seems to me that you may be projecting your own sense of guilt onto homosexuals since you and your current husband are both guilty of ongoing adultery according to the words of Christ.

Being outed is a difficult process, sometimes excruciating.  It can be rude, even fatal, to out someone, especially with malicious intent.  But ultimately, especially for people with adequate spiritual and emotional resources, it can be freeing.  For myself, we should never out someone.  That decision should be made by the individuals themselves.

The ultimate healthiness of “being real” is true for all of us, not just gays and lesbians.  Whether we are eclectic types who consciously draw from many spiritual resources, or true believers who think their resources are actually derived purely from the Bible, it is better that we take advantage of the occasional reality check as an opportunity to grow, instead of moving forward in what we know is a fantasy.  I’m convinced that many problems and weaknesses cannot be “fixed,” only managed.

Debra, my life sometimes feels confused, even chaotic.  There are things I’ve done I regret, made decisions that seemed right at the time, and I’ve sometimes wished for just a couple of do-overs.  It’s no secret that I’m disappointed with my career trajectory.  Experience and meds help to keep my anger in check (normally).  My life isn’t a hellish cesspool, but even I recognize the need for limits on self-disclosure.  And I believe that a certain degree of loneliness is universal for all of us.

I know you see yourself as a kind, compassionate, and sensitive person, and in certain situations you are.  And I know that you have suffered more injustice and rejection than almost anyone could deserve.  My hope for you is that, if not already true, you actually  will be able to laugh at yourself and the world without having to denigrate others, which denigration is one of your favorite default modes.  In addition to my hope that you will consider the roots of your anti-gay rhetoric, I truly hope that you will find the rest your soul so earnestly desires.  These words will be familiar to you.

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.  Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.  For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Your friend,


About Ron Goetz

My first wife used to say, "There's nothing so sacred that Ron won't pick it apart." My desire to be a pastor -- that was a temperamental mismatch. She was so patient. If my birth mother had lived somewhere else, maybe I would've become a cold case detective. But I would have had to be J instead of a P, I think. And that mid-life reevaluation, starting adolescence as a GARB fundamentalist and transitioning to a non-theist, that gave me an unusual skill set.
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14 Responses to Dear Professor Smith

  1. Raymond A. Weaver says:

    This is a wonderful and wise response. I am going to archive it in my own files as a reference to which I know I will return.


  2. LaNeece White says:

    This seems to be an especially compassionate response to what must have been a really insidious attack. Kudos to your for your soft answer, I am happy to call you my “internet” friend.


  3. What a compassionate response. Your example of “turning the other cheek” is inspiring.
    With gratitude~


  4. Ron Goetz says:

    Thanks to each of you for your appreciation. Deciding whether and how to reply was an interesting process.

    [edited addition]

    I inadvertently published some notes that I did NOT intend to make public. Please know that it was not intentional, and that I did my best to retrieve the link from the net, as well as deleted them within my blog. My sincerest apologies to all of you, including “Prof. Smith.”


    • Johnny says:

      ron, sometimes I don’t read long things but I believe that God wanted me to read your answer in its entirety. As the other commentors said, the answer was kind but thorough and to the point.

      I believe that this person is really mad at herself and wants to denigrate everyone else to make herself feel better….many many so called Christians act this way all the time….they never see their ownselves but are always trying to clarify everyone else’s sins….keep up the good work and may you always be able to counteract these type of people…you inspire me even more to try to give my friends another side of this picture….I could write a book about what I have learned in the last 10 years about being gay……just from my own experiences….I know that God loves and that I am ok with God….when we finally accept ourself and quite living a lie, God can use us to tell others about His inclusive love….it seems that the people that preach the hardest against gays are the ones that are so unhappy with themselves and I don’t really think they know the first thing about God except they have heard from others….there is a spirit within us and that spirit in some is very anti-God even while they are telling everyone God God but denying the power thereof!!!!!!


      • Ron Goetz says:

        I’m reminded of Psalm 37, “Delight thyself in the Lord, and he shall grant thee the desires of thine heart.”

        You should have every confidence that God will use you to bless others. You go, Johnny!


  5. thayes9217 says:

    Dear Ron:

    Wow! Job had nothing on you. Your patience with “Professor Debra Smith” was mind-boggling. While I wold have appreciated being able to see the original emails that you received, I can understand your unwillingness to share them verbatim.

    Having once served as an ordained Southern Baptist minister for a number of years, all of the time celibate and in the closet, I can surmise the content of her correspondence. Your kindness and tact in telling her that her exegesis was incomplete should help but I doubt that she will heed your advice. I became a better student of the Bible after I left the ministry than I was while in service. I heard only too many times how homosexual behavior (read: gay sex) was “unnatural” behavior. From my experience, my being celibate for 47 years was the truly unnatural behavior.

    Five years out of the closet I met and fell in love with my sole life partner. We were together for nearly 30 years before he succumbed to cancer in 2009. Four days before he died at the age of 95, he not only encouraged me, but urged me, to join in on the lobby day for marriage equality at the legislature of New York, to make known our needs as a senior gay couple to share in equality. Of course, you know that marriage equality came to New York, but it arrived on the scene too late for us.

    He could never understand how our marrying could possibly hurt the marriages of our neighbors. I wish that Debra could have known him. Her attitude might be somewhat different. Shortly before his death, I began — and shortly after his death, completed — a tribute to him that I think might have helped alter the limited thinking of Prof. Smith. I enclose it, should you wish to share it with her.

    The love of my life has died at the age of 95. You probably didn’t know him. Truly, truly that was your loss!

    He was the kindest, gentlest, most loving person I have ever known. All who knew him loved and respected him for who and what he was. As for me, my life is a thing of greater beauty and purpose simply because he was a part of it. In all our years together I was truly able to say every day, “I love him more today than I did yesterday.”

    He was one of that rapidly diminishing group of veterans of World War II. He served in the U.S. Navy for four years. Fortunately, he never had to kill anyone. He was a great lover of all life. And, oh, how he loved animals and generously supported those organizations whose purpose was their protection!

    He supported the community in many ways both culturally and socially. He supported organizations that were developed to advocate for the disenfranchised, the minority, and the poor. He never was in trouble with the law and never shunned his responsibility as a tax-paying citizen nor did he ever shirk any other responsibility expected of the citizens of our country.

    A truly model citizen you might say? Indeed! Yet, many who never met him nor ever came in contact with him – mostly people who identified as Christian — demanded that he be both condemned socially and be denied equality of citizenship. Some even clamored for his death! Why? It was simply because he was gay.

    He was not raised in a home where he was exposed to any religion. But I will tell you one thing: I saw in him a person much more like Jesus than many, many of those who sought to condemn him in the name of Jesus.

    We were life partners for decades and there is a great void in my life because he is gone. Although known as a loving person, I never knew I could either love or be loved as deeply and completely as I experienced with him. As we prepared for his death, we talked about many things. One that broke his heart more than any other was the “Christian” attitude toward us. He never hurt one of them — ever! So he could not understand why those “godly” people so despised us and demanded that we be relegated to no better than second-class status in the country of our births. He never could grasp how our being married would have harmed another’s marriage in the slightest, especially since many of those who condemned us experienced three or more spouses during the time we were a loving, monogamous couple. And so we were separated without our loving relationship ever having been recognized legally as a family.

    A democracy is defined as the “practice or principles of social equality.” That he, who loved, was loyal to and served his country — allegedly a democracy — was not granted equality during his lifetime, is an indictment against that claim. I will never forgive my country for that!


    The Rev. Dr. Theodore W. Hayes (ret.)
    Kingston, NY


    • Ron Goetz says:

      Thanks so much for your reply, Rev. Hayes. Would you mind if I posted your tribute as a bona fide blog one day?


      • thayes9217 says:

        I would not mind in the least; I more likely would be honored. Thanks from an octogenarian who once again is alone, but not the least bit lonely. I have huge and loving support.


  6. Mandy Kilpatrick says:

    Thank you Ron for sharing your astonishingly beautiful and thought provoking response to Debra. I am in awe of your ability to handle such hatred with a kind of love and compassion that diffuses the sting, and power, of her vicious anger. I think your response was perfect.

    I also want to thank Rev. Hayes for sharing his story regarding his husband, and tribute to him. So incredibly beautiful – such a beautiful tribute which also serves to inspire hope for the future of humanity. We must keep on fighting injustices for the ones we love.

    God Bless you both, I am truly honored to be a subscriber of this blog.


  7. Judith A. Sandeen says:

    Thank you for sharing all this with us, Ron and Rev. Hayes. It must have taken great fortitude and forbearance to write the response to “Professor Smith”. Rev. Hayes, I wish for you peace and comfort.


  8. JayEdgar says:

    Wow, Ron, you blow me away. Thank you for deciding to be so patient and loving, and not take the easy route of “scoring points” that is so popular. And your willingness to be so brutally honest about yourself and your struggles is inspiring. I love good writing and I love integrity and thoughtfulness. I’ve just subscribed to this blog and look forward to reading more past and future issues. –Warmly.


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